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Two Buyers, Two Systems: Public vs. Private Tech Purchasing

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April 9, 2026
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The same product needs a different sales motion for a public district and a private school. Chris Bell, who runs technology for Huntington Beach City School District, and John Faig, tech director at a private K-8, sit side by side with Peter Polygalov to compare how each actually buys: who has to approve a purchase, how budget cycles and pilots differ, what gets a vendor in the door, and what gets them blocked.

What you'll learn

  • Who touches a purchase in a public district versus a private school
  • Why public buying often runs through a committee you never meet
  • How budget cycles differ, and when to start the conversation
  • Why both buyers do their own homework before they ever contact you
  • The outreach that gets a vendor in the door, and what gets them blocked
  • How each side thinks about pilots, and why paid pilots matter
  • What "pricing proximity" means to a private-school buyer
  • Why implementation and project management can make or break a deal

Chapters

  • 0:00 Public vs. private, and meet the buyers
  • 0:39 Chris's role at a public K-8 district
  • 1:42 Who touches a new product in a public district
  • 3:55 Why public buying is a committee
  • 4:45 How a private school evaluates products
  • 5:48 Screen-time pressure and where products land
  • 7:25 Sales-cycle length on both sides
  • 10:20 The bottom-up champion
  • 12:09 Getting on the radar, and what kills a demo
  • 16:05 Above-board tactics for early-stage vendors
  • 19:56 How public-school budgets actually work
  • 22:14 The private-school budget cycle
  • 24:43 Pricing and proposal mistakes
  • 26:42 Homework, pricing proximity, and implementation
  • 29:59 A vendor who impressed a public buyer
  • 31:28 What earns a private buyer's trust
  • 35:06 Impressive, but it doesn't move the needle
  • 37:51 How pilots really work, and paid pilots
  • 39:47 Why one buyer is against pilots
  • 41:05 What each wishes every vendor understood

About this episode

Peter puts two buyers side by side: Chris Bell, who runs technology for Huntington Beach City School District, and John Faig, tech director at a private K-8. In the public district a purchase can move through educational services, which holds the edtech budget, technology, which vets data privacy and integrations, cabinet, which checks it against the strategic plan, and the board above $5,000, often a committee of buyers a vendor never meets. On the private side John usually holds the budget and can move fast, sometimes deciding overnight on a targeted tool, though larger systems still pull in multiple stakeholders.

Both buyers do their own homework, John reviews 5 to 10 products a week, and both lean on peer networks; a warm introduction from a trusted door-opener beats any cold outreach. Cold calls, cold DMs, the same "just following up" email forwarded again, false urgency, and threatened price increases are fast ways to get blocked, and both hold the whole company accountable, not just the rep. What works is transparency, doing your homework on the district's context before pitching, and leading with the problem rather than the product.

On budgets, public conversations for a major purchase need to start in the fall to make the next year's budget, and both sides implement big systems over the summer, so a vendor who disappears on vacation misfits the cycle. They compare pilots, Chris runs small, targeted, ideally paid pilots, while John is against pilots and instead buys ahead on a subscription and gives adoption a couple of years, and agree that demos are overrated next to good documentation, honest acknowledgment of feature gaps, and real project management during implementation.

Notable moments

You really need to understand the context before you pitch the product. Every district is different.
Chris Bell
I want to focus on the relationship and the problem you solve, not the transaction, because most of these products we keep for 5 to 10 years.
John Faig

Questions this episode answers

How does buying edtech differ between a public district and a private school?

In a public district a purchase can run through a committee, educational services, technology, cabinet, and board approval, tied to the strategic plan, while a private school's tech director often holds the budget and can decide quickly. Both, though, rely heavily on their own research and peer networks.

Who approves an edtech purchase in a public school district?

It varies by district, but at Huntington Beach City School District edtech is budgeted by educational services, vetted for data privacy by technology, discussed at cabinet against the strategic plan, and, above $5,000, signed off by the board.

How should vendors time outreach to school budget cycles?

Start early. For a public district, conversations about a major purchase should begin in the fall to land in the next year's budget. Private schools set budgets in the fall too but keep some innovation funds, and both prefer to implement big systems over the summer.

What's the fastest way for a vendor to lose a K-12 buyer?

Cold calls, cold LinkedIn DMs, and the same email forwarded over and over. Applying pressure, false urgency, and threatened price increases also backfire. Both buyers hold the whole company accountable, not just the rep, and they talk to each other.

Do K-12 buyers value product demos?

Less than vendors think. Both buyers said a demo is confirmation at best; they would rather sift through documentation, recorded videos, and white papers on their own. Getting the basic firmographics right, like whether a school even has a high school, matters more.

Peter0:00

Thanks, everyone. We've got a great dynamic planned for today's episode. John, my co-host, runs tech at a private school. Our guest, Chris Bell, runs tech at a public district. Both are K through 8. Today we're putting them side by side so vendors can hear what actually changes when you're selling into one versus the other. Chris, can you give us the quick version? What's your role at Huntington Beach City School District, and what does your day-to-day look like?

Chris Bell0:39

My role at Huntington Beach City School District is Executive Director of Technology Services, which is a fancy name for a working director. I get in and do help desk tickets alongside my team, depending on what's going on, and if I'm not in meetings I'm out at school sites, which I love. So I'm constantly juggling a help desk, moving projects forward, and different meetings. We're about 4,600 to 4,700 students, K through 8, with 8 campuses plus a couple of facilities we support that have a lot of classified staff. Day to day depends on what fires we have to put out.

Peter1:35

When a new product lands on your desk, who has to touch it before anything moves forward?

Chris Bell1:42

It depends on who originates the interest, and it comes from all directions. Over time we've built a district-supported list of applications we either provide or will absolutely support. Teachers come to us with something they're interested in, free or paid, and we evaluate it from the data-privacy standpoint first, whether it's initiated by me, a teacher, or a principal. We also have a somewhat unique structure: I don't budget or pay for edtech products, with the exception of Google Workspace. Things like Renaissance fall under educational services, who engage with the vendors, and I come in to evaluate the technical pieces, rostering, Clever, SFTP uploads. If there's an actual purchase, it goes through ed services and then cabinet, our extended group of directors including the superintendent and assistant superintendents. They discuss the product so everyone can ask questions and validate how it fits our strategic plan and the goals we set annually.

Peter3:55

So when you're selling into a public district, you're really working with a committee of buyers rather than one person?

Chris Bell4:04

A lot of the time, yes, though not always, sometimes things move quickly and I'll just give consent. But when you're selling something that touches a lot of departments and campuses, it absolutely is a committee of buyers. You may never see those buyers, but it's a joint decision.

Peter4:32

John, on your end as a private-school tech director, same question: when a new product lands on your desk, who has to touch it before anything moves forward?

John4:45

The edtech tools are in my budget, and thankfully our procurement is a little shorter than Chris's. Products enter two ways: a teacher recommendation, sometimes through a technology coordinator, or my own research. I talk to a lot of peers, read a lot of blog posts and articles, and review about 5 to 10 products a week. With my understanding of learning goals and curriculum, I try to imagine which grades or subjects would want a product. We're K-8, and there's a big push right now to limit screen time for younger kids, so the impact for grades K through 3 has to be dramatic, the ROI has to really move the needle. We find many products finding a home in grades 5 through 8.

Chris Bell5:48

Can I piggyback on that? With the screen-time push, all of us, on both the ed-services and tech-services sides, are looking hard at it. I've been digging into screen time, evaluating how kids use it, because I know I'll have to answer for it at some point. And in terms of product adoption, it's definitely tracking toward middle school and upper elementary.

John6:23

We're also seeing pushback from parents who read articles about the low efficacy of edtech tools in general. We're very much play-oriented, reading books and writing, so we've adopted edtech in the middle school more as a springboard to the schools kids go to after us. We look at what the high schools and private schools they feed into require, and try to prepare our kids. Left to our own devices, we'd probably be more judicious with edtech.

Peter7:11

On the sales cycle, John, how long does it typically take from the first conversation to a signed agreement?

John7:25

It's pretty quick, depending on scope. A targeted tool a few teachers will use, I can decide overnight with their input. Larger, horizontal products, LMSs, student information systems, emergency notification, security, cross multiple departments and stakeholders, so those take multiple rounds of review and longer. That said, last year we wrapped a fairly complicated new healthcare information system from initial search to implementation in about a month.

Peter8:20

Chris, what about in your world?

Chris Bell8:22

It can go both ways. I recently wrapped procurement for a new help desk and inventory system; that went through on the board consent agenda. All I had to do was my homework, a lot of meetings with peers who'd adopted it, then take it to cabinet for sign-off. Setting up the purchase order took the longest. On the other hand, we use Securly for filtering and wanted to add one of their products; I had early conversations when I started last July but didn't yet understand the lay of the land, so it took about nine months to get approved. When I know what I want, I'll go after it and don't need as much internal buy-in, because I'm making the business case. Although if it's a student information system, I'll be leaving the district if we implement a new one, because that's what you do when you take on something that big.

Peter10:20

One thing I heard from both of you is teachers and educators bringing up tools they're excited to pilot. That reinforces the bottom-up approach, finding site-level champions who are excited about your tool, which makes the pitch to the director or district administrator easier.

Chris Bell10:55

Bottom-up has worked for a lot of edtech tools over the last 10 to 15 years, and it will keep working. It depends on who's in my seat or John's. I pay attention to a lot of products, honestly with some edtech fatigue after living in the space so long, so I'm a bit jaded about most of what comes my way. But once in a while something comes through with solid pedagogy underneath it, and I'll ask a teacher or two to test it, and we build small pilots from there, because I'm always looking for something that actually supports learning.

Peter11:54

Chris, what's the right way for a vendor to get on your radar, and the fastest way to kill any chance of a demo?

Chris Bell12:09

The fastest way to kill it is to hammer my LinkedIn inbox with messages I'm not going to answer. The best way, honestly, is through relationships, an introduction from someone I trust who has vetted the product, and peers who've tested it or are looking at it too. We talk a lot behind the scenes, which makes it easier to open the door. Cold calling, I just don't have time for. I'll take internal calls all day because I want my end users supported, but a cold call, I honestly don't have time.

Peter13:09

John, same question on the private side. Is the front door the same or completely different?

John13:18

The front door might be a different color, but a lot of what Chris said resonates. Cold calls and fake relationships are a deal breaker. I regularly get an email that just says following up on my previous email, forwarding the same one over and over, and that's one click of the spam button. I don't like cold emails, cold calls, or cold LinkedIn DMs. I don't mind being warmed up, getting a newsletter from someone whose company I already know. And don't apply pressure, don't tell me you were in town visiting nearby schools and want to stop by, or imply that if I don't buy we're falling behind competitively, or push a coming price increase to rush me. I'm not deal-oriented or a bargain hunter; we make strategic decisions for our students and staff, and saving a little money is pretty far down my list.

Chris Bell14:46

It's so true. Those tactics remind me of a used-car salesman, and it only turns me away from doing business with that vendor.

John15:07

And I don't just penalize the individual salesperson, I hold the whole vendor organization accountable. If that person was taught that's the right approach, it speaks to the company, and I'll probably find other reasons not to want them in our schools.

Peter15:39

Are there good, above-board tactics an early-stage company can use to get on your radar or make your life easier, before they've built up a referral engine, maybe at conferences, or something on their website?

Chris Bell16:05

Transparency. Like buying a car now, I'll go to the website and evaluate the privacy policy and data governance. I'm almost always an informed buyer. There are a couple of small SIS companies slowly disrupting the space right now, and it's because they just had a conversation. I walked by at a conference, they got my attention, and I ended up in a long discussion. It was clear they'd done their homework on the segment and the industry and were solving real problems, and that's when I decided this is a company I want to work with. In a prior role I lined them up to come in and disrupt a legacy player I'd used for close to 20 years. They did it right: did their homework and solved real problems.

Peter17:42

It sounds like they started by listening and building the relationship rather than pitching.

Chris Bell17:49

Absolutely. If you've done your homework, looked at the district website, and reference it in the conversation, then it's not even about the product, it's about understanding the context. Every district is different, with different challenges. You really need to understand the context before you pitch the product.

John18:30

I'm the same. I want to focus on the relationship and the problem you solve, not the transaction, because most of these products we keep for 5 to 10 years. I want to be met where I am, much like students want to be met where they are. I'm a well-informed buyer; I do a lot of legwork on my own to reach a confidence level, then reach out. So give me the content and the relevance to build the case on my own, be supportive, and I'll knock on your door when I want to buy.

Peter19:35

On budgets and the approval process, Chris, for vendors who don't understand public school procurement, what do they need to know about how the budget actually works?

Chris Bell19:56

Understand the budget cycles. If you're hoping to get in on a major purchase, say $20,000 or more, your conversations realistically have to start in the fall, because you need to be in the next school year's budget, unless you're a painkiller solving a massive problem we can clear budget for. A lot of things are nice-to-haves. Staying connected through the cycle matters, and so does being willing to wait. Vendors work off quarterly numbers, but our purchasing cycles are longer; it may take a year, and that doesn't mean we're not interested. It also has to be balanced against other initiatives, because we can only take on so many projects at once and we want them to succeed. Budgets are largely general fund for public ed, with some title funding, which is categorical funding from the feds or the state; my district doesn't have a ton of that.

Peter22:06

John, how's it different on the private side? Is there a budget cycle, or more of an if-we-need-it-we-buy-it approach?

John22:14

Some similarities and differences. Our budget for the next school year is set in October and the board approves it. Once the year starts, I have some latitude because we have innovation funds, a line item that isn't spend-it-or-lose-it, that I can tap for good reason. If we do buy a product, it becomes part of the next budget. For a larger, more complicated product, we'll want to buy it closer to summer, because we implement major systems changes over the summer when faculty and staff are off campus.

Chris Bell23:17

I'd add that beyond the district budget, sites have their own funds, including PTA funding, that pay for various software, which I don't control. But every technology purchase in my district needs my sign-off, so if it's redundant we talk about why they should use what already exists. And the board approval threshold matters: under $5,000 you can buy what you want, but over $5,000 needs the board's consent after the fact.

Peter24:31

Chris, what are common mistakes with pricing, the pitch, or proposal materials that make you lose confidence in a vendor?

Chris Bell24:43

Recently we were purchasing through a joint powers authority, and I was surprised that late in the process they rejected the purchase order because it didn't reference the JPA agreement, which was on them to initiate, not me. It dragged things out and didn't make me confident in the sales rep. Another time, a vendor we work with referred us to another company; the sales process was fine, but implementation fell apart so badly I had to threaten to pull the contract. Have your ducks in a row and make it easy on me.

Peter26:37

John, any common mistakes on your end?

John26:42

Since I do my own homework, having content to review, recorded videos, white papers, real documentation, matters. Common mistakes: being too aggressive, calling me every week or two, which doesn't match my decision process. And pricing proximity, I look at all our products and the value they provide; ours range from about $1,000 a year to $15,000 for the major systems, and a product's price needs to be in proximity to its value. I'm not price shopping A versus B versus C, but the value has to be in sync. We pay $6,000 a year for digital signage and don't want to grow that footprint, because per screen per month it could hit $12,000, which pushes it toward major-system pricing for just signage, so we're reevaluating it. The last one is implementation, understanding the steps, timeline, and backlog. Summer is a crunch, so I need to know you have a firm grasp of how long it'll take and that your implementers are available so it doesn't drag into the fall.

Chris Bell28:40

To piggyback, a lot of newer companies don't plan for the summer crunch, they're off on vacation, and I'm thinking, no, that's go time in our industry. My summers are mapped out three years ahead, for switch upgrades, VoIP, you name it. We hope our vendors understand that and build their customer success and implementation teams around it.

Peter29:44

That speaks to knowing your customer. Just because teachers are out for the summer doesn't mean the district or county office stops. Chris, think of a vendor who genuinely impressed you recently. What did they do differently?

Chris Bell29:59

It's a younger startup building an AI product, and when I first saw it I thought, this is different, not just a GPT wrapper. Very low pressure: please just try it and let us know what you think. They kept reaching back for feedback, did the teachers like it, with no pressure to move to a sale. The process was organic; they genuinely wanted to know how teachers felt, and never once tried to demo or pitch, because the product speaks for itself. They were also very responsive to feature requests and put them on the roadmap. That built a strong relationship.

Peter31:21

John, same question. Any vendors who stand out, and why?

John31:28

First, to Chris's point, help me do my job easier, which means help me evaluate your product against our needs. Don't just tell me how great it is; that makes comparing vendors hard when everyone leads with different headline features. Confirm the gaps and acknowledge them, we're good here, we don't do that. It might be on the roadmap, so it may not be a deficiency forever, and that truthfulness goes a long way. I really appreciate a vendor that has done conversions between systems before and has a handle on the resources and timeline. Most importantly, a vendor that uses onboarding project-management software, so we know who's responsible for what, who's behind, and where we are. That's newer in edtech, and its absence could be a deal breaker, because without it the synchronization gets rockier and the implementation risk goes up.

Chris Bell33:19

I'll piggyback on that. It stands out when a vendor comes ready with a plan: here's what it looks like, here's our suggested cadence for follow-up meetings, does that work for your schedule? They accommodate you. Every two weeks is perfect for a check-in, and we can talk any time in between, but that dedicated time to walk through the project matters.

John34:02

I can think of an implementation two summers ago that was one of the worst ever. It was overpriced and incredibly rigid: their process had 12 steps, but we weren't buying all the modules, and instead of reconfiguring to compress the timeline, we had weeks doing nothing because they couldn't adjust the schedule to the modules we did buy. From a major SIS vendor, a big miss.

Peter34:53

Is there anything vendors do that they think is impressive but that doesn't actually move the needle?

Chris Bell35:06

Right now, "it has AI." Great, that doesn't really impress me at this point.

John35:16

For sure, AI is a tailwind everyone's chasing. Two other things: overestimating the demo. People want to get a demo in front of me so badly, as if it'll sell the product, but to me the demo is confirmation, not nearly as useful as sifting through the documentation. And not understanding the target persona. We're an independent school with no high school, and we're misclassified often enough that people think we're a district with a high school. If you can't get the basic firmographics right, I have no doubt something else will go wrong.

Chris Bell36:13

Such a great point. I get vendors who think we're the high school district, because there is one in our town, and they pitch high-school products. That's not us, and it doesn't build my confidence. I'll tell the director over there to watch out for them, because we talk behind the scenes. If you turn someone off, it gets around fast.

John36:55

A hundred percent. In the DC area we have a director-of-technology Google Group with about 50 schools, and I'm also in a national group. If you're not transparent or not practicing solid business practices, we'll know, and it makes an already difficult procurement much harder.

Peter37:30

Do your homework, and when you get the chance to impress, don't blow it. Chris, once a vendor gets past the demo, what does a pilot actually look like in your district, and what are the landmines?

Chris Bell37:51

I'm careful about who I select for pilots, because we want some control. We often target our toughest internal customers, because they'll find all the problems. A pilot for me is really about what I need to know before we scale, where the problems are, which is why I pilot at a lower level. But there are products I don't need to pilot, because I've done the homework and talked to enough people about their experience with the vendor and the product. Going into an unpaid pilot, there's no skin in the game for the district, which is bad for the vendor, they put in a lot of effort with no requirement that the district match it. So approach pilots with caution, focus on whether we're solving a real problem, and if we are, get them into a paid pilot so there's skin in the game.

Peter39:40

Great advice, Chris. John, what does the process look like on the private-school side? Is it different?

John39:47

It's a little different: I'm a thousand percent against pilots. Asking teachers and administrators to run a new system alongside the old one is double work, the new system gets shortchanged, and it's not really put through its paces. My homework is enough to identify the pinch points. Instead, because of the subscription model, I'll often buy a product ahead of time hoping teachers adopt it, and give it two or three years, since teacher training is the big stumbling block to adoption. If there's no uptake, I move on.

Peter40:47

As we wrap up, Chris, in your role at a public K-8 district, what's one thing you wish every vendor understood about selling to your district?

Chris Bell41:05

Be patient with the process. Sometimes it goes fast, sometimes slow, but I try to be transparent about the timeline so they don't get their hopes up about closing in Q1 or Q2. I'll tell them honestly who needs to be involved and what the timeline looks like, and working with me through that shows me you're a partner.

Peter41:43

And John, same question. As the director of technology at a K-8 private school, what's one thing you wish every vendor understood about selling to your school?

John41:55

I can't boil it down to one, I have three. First, if you're lucky enough to get my time, sell me the why, not the what. Second, remember I can make purchases throughout the year, so stay relevant and in my orbit rather than pegging everything to a time of year. Third, I do a lot of homework, so give me resources to get even more educated than I already am.

Peter42:36

That's all my questions. Our listeners will be happy I kept quiet for most of the episode and practiced the art of listening we talk so much about. Thank you, John, as always, and thank you, Chris, for joining us today.

Chris Bell42:51

Thank you, guys, appreciate it.